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The death of St. Boniface in the Fuldaer Sakramentar, 10th Century. ᛦ
Hammer and Vajra
An online argument regarding Loki.
I sadly still get a lot of people who approach me, both newcomers to IRL practice and online, who seem to be obsessed with Loki.
It shows me that certain people's approaches and mindsets are too anchored on being anti-Christian and contrarian, with no rules, systems, or legality, that they gravitate to anything they determine to be rebellious.
While viewing morality and Loki via an Abrahamic or Christian mindset of the Devil or Satan is highly incorrect. Having an obsession with him, being devoted to him, or having high reverence towards him is also incorrect.
It shows me that certain people's approaches and mindsets are too anchored on being anti-Christian and contrarian, with no rules, systems, or legality, that they gravitate to anything they determine to be rebellious.
While viewing morality and Loki via an Abrahamic or Christian mindset of the Devil or Satan is highly incorrect. Having an obsession with him, being devoted to him, or having high reverence towards him is also incorrect.
Forwarded from Will of Gaut
"Early #Germanic warriors of the Pre-Roman Iron Age (6th century BC - 1st century BC), also known as the #Jastorf culture. Modern day Denmark, northern Germany and southern Scandinavia. Weapons based on the finds of the #Hjortspring boat"
https://x.com/JoanFrancescOl1/status/1679389377259098113?s=19
https://x.com/JoanFrancescOl1/status/1679389377259098113?s=19
Germanic Worldview, Cosmology, and Ethics : https://www.group-telegram.com/hammerandvajra.com/4319
Hammer and Vajra
Germanic Worldview, Cosmology, and Ethics : https://www.group-telegram.com/hammerandvajra.com/4319
Germanic Worldview, Cosmology, and Ethics.
Often, when people compare Indo-European faiths, they love to focus on the concept of Karma, Dharma, and even Ŕta.
This comparison isn't wrong and was the approach of many of the authors and philosophers of the 18th and early 19th centuries.
The issue is that more often than not, those of a Germanic Pagan / Heathen approach forget to see these comparisons and will get overshadowed by them or Greco-Roman ideas such as Logos etc.
What they tend to forget the Germanic world view had its own approaches to these. Frith, Ørlǫg, and Wyrd are some of the terms and concepts that were integral to The Teutonic / Germanic world view. Just like the aforementioned Sanskrit terms (at least in the Vedic context), these too were ideas that even the Gods were subject to, and part of, and worked to uphold and enforce.
But for the Germanics, they had unique aspects and understanding that were closer to the most ancient approaches.
Ones that were more honor bound and a part of one's family, kindred, self expression, and totality of world and cosmic view.
The Book The Culture of the Teutons, by Vilhelm Grønbech, does a great job highlighting these approaches and their deep meanings to the Germanic peoples.
https://www.group-telegram.com/survivethejive did an amazing review that covers some of these core takeaways.
https://youtu.be/jVxRekwq0Is?si=qAqwTyJ2ZhJ0m2tl
I own an older release prior to Antelope Hill Publishing's recent release, but this seems to be the way to go.
https://www.copperfieldsbooks.com/book/9781956887914
Hammer and Vajra.
Often, when people compare Indo-European faiths, they love to focus on the concept of Karma, Dharma, and even Ŕta.
This comparison isn't wrong and was the approach of many of the authors and philosophers of the 18th and early 19th centuries.
The issue is that more often than not, those of a Germanic Pagan / Heathen approach forget to see these comparisons and will get overshadowed by them or Greco-Roman ideas such as Logos etc.
What they tend to forget the Germanic world view had its own approaches to these. Frith, Ørlǫg, and Wyrd are some of the terms and concepts that were integral to The Teutonic / Germanic world view. Just like the aforementioned Sanskrit terms (at least in the Vedic context), these too were ideas that even the Gods were subject to, and part of, and worked to uphold and enforce.
But for the Germanics, they had unique aspects and understanding that were closer to the most ancient approaches.
Ones that were more honor bound and a part of one's family, kindred, self expression, and totality of world and cosmic view.
The Book The Culture of the Teutons, by Vilhelm Grønbech, does a great job highlighting these approaches and their deep meanings to the Germanic peoples.
https://www.group-telegram.com/survivethejive did an amazing review that covers some of these core takeaways.
https://youtu.be/jVxRekwq0Is?si=qAqwTyJ2ZhJ0m2tl
I own an older release prior to Antelope Hill Publishing's recent release, but this seems to be the way to go.
https://www.copperfieldsbooks.com/book/9781956887914
Hammer and Vajra.
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NEW FIND: Anglo-Saxon coin with a "Valknut", dated to the 7th century, pre-dating the Viking era and therefore disproving the claim that the pagan symbol was unknown in Britain prior to the Vikings.
It could be the oldest Anglo-Saxon coin ever found. Some are saying the figure wields a Christian cross over the Valknut, a pagan symbol, and that would seem to indicate a representation of Christian faith beating Paganism.
Alternatively, it is an expression of the religious pluralism of a transitionary dual faith period when both religions were practised by the English. The Valknut does seem much more prominent than the cross on that side, and the other side has a Christian cross which is sort of arranged in the shape of a Swastika, which was a symbol of the god Woden.
We know from Bede that a king who lived in East Anglia, where this coin was found, around the same time it was made, practised dual faith, keeping an idol of Jesus next to those of the English gods. So this seems plausible...
It could be the oldest Anglo-Saxon coin ever found. Some are saying the figure wields a Christian cross over the Valknut, a pagan symbol, and that would seem to indicate a representation of Christian faith beating Paganism.
Alternatively, it is an expression of the religious pluralism of a transitionary dual faith period when both religions were practised by the English. The Valknut does seem much more prominent than the cross on that side, and the other side has a Christian cross which is sort of arranged in the shape of a Swastika, which was a symbol of the god Woden.
We know from Bede that a king who lived in East Anglia, where this coin was found, around the same time it was made, practised dual faith, keeping an idol of Jesus next to those of the English gods. So this seems plausible...
What are the Gods?
https://www.group-telegram.com/hammerandvajra.com/4323
https://www.group-telegram.com/hammerandvajra.com/4323
Hammer and Vajra
What are the Gods? https://www.group-telegram.com/hammerandvajra.com/4323
What are the Gods?
The Gods/Divine are symbolic and real, metaphysical and allegorical, metagenetic and archetypes, metaphoric, and cosmic. Legendary, and the reason there are legends.
Theological and logical.
Philosophical and factual.
Once you have this approach, many things become easier.
When I stated the above, someone replied, stating that our ancestors "really" experienced the Gods, and all we do is give them rational descriptions and intellectualize them.
To this my reply is; if you have ever had a Near death experience, a deep meditation or trance, or been in the wilderness or on the ocean for a long time, then you have experienced the Gods.
However, I experience them both as natural forces and through my intellect as well as my blood, breath, and flame in my heart.
The fact I am breathing and have an inner monolog and cognition is proof of the divine.
The image / meme states that the Gods in myth are just sexual, carnal, and human, like with the representing raw human emotions, virtues, and natural phenomenon.
That in Worship they are seen as loving providers, protectors, guides, and empowering figures.
Lastly that in Theology they are the divine Cosmos itself, the expression of the deeper spirit that connects all things even witihn you and within the forces that make up the world around us and the world's beyond us.
I don't agree with this meme for one major reason.
The Gods are all of these at the same time.
Your understanding at the base human level requires you to categorize the divine into archetypes and functions. And the heriarchy they have set in places can indeed be seen this way. But they are much more than that.
They are the blood on your veins, the wind in the trees, the air you breathe, the spells you pray, your ancestors who watch over you, and the stars in the Sky.
In addition
The Gods being horny is on one hand primarily metaphoric, and on the otherhand it a primal reflection of creation, relationships, and life. Life is sexual. Sex is natural. Having children is natural. Sex isn't something Pagans shun or hide away from. But like in all thinks mastery and control over such is greatest expression of the divine.
Regardless of what myth you look to, primarily in the European and Eurasian / Indo-European subsets, the Gods being a complete picture of all of these aspects is the proper way to understand then and what is ultimately expressed in the scripture as well as folk culture.
Hammer and Vajra!
The Gods/Divine are symbolic and real, metaphysical and allegorical, metagenetic and archetypes, metaphoric, and cosmic. Legendary, and the reason there are legends.
Theological and logical.
Philosophical and factual.
Once you have this approach, many things become easier.
When I stated the above, someone replied, stating that our ancestors "really" experienced the Gods, and all we do is give them rational descriptions and intellectualize them.
To this my reply is; if you have ever had a Near death experience, a deep meditation or trance, or been in the wilderness or on the ocean for a long time, then you have experienced the Gods.
However, I experience them both as natural forces and through my intellect as well as my blood, breath, and flame in my heart.
The fact I am breathing and have an inner monolog and cognition is proof of the divine.
The image / meme states that the Gods in myth are just sexual, carnal, and human, like with the representing raw human emotions, virtues, and natural phenomenon.
That in Worship they are seen as loving providers, protectors, guides, and empowering figures.
Lastly that in Theology they are the divine Cosmos itself, the expression of the deeper spirit that connects all things even witihn you and within the forces that make up the world around us and the world's beyond us.
I don't agree with this meme for one major reason.
The Gods are all of these at the same time.
Your understanding at the base human level requires you to categorize the divine into archetypes and functions. And the heriarchy they have set in places can indeed be seen this way. But they are much more than that.
They are the blood on your veins, the wind in the trees, the air you breathe, the spells you pray, your ancestors who watch over you, and the stars in the Sky.
In addition
The Gods being horny is on one hand primarily metaphoric, and on the otherhand it a primal reflection of creation, relationships, and life. Life is sexual. Sex is natural. Having children is natural. Sex isn't something Pagans shun or hide away from. But like in all thinks mastery and control over such is greatest expression of the divine.
Regardless of what myth you look to, primarily in the European and Eurasian / Indo-European subsets, the Gods being a complete picture of all of these aspects is the proper way to understand then and what is ultimately expressed in the scripture as well as folk culture.
Hammer and Vajra!
Hammer and Vajra
What are the Gods? The Gods/Divine are symbolic and real, metaphysical and allegorical, metagenetic and archetypes, metaphoric, and cosmic. Legendary, and the reason there are legends. Theological and logical. Philosophical and factual. Once you have this…
Fortress of Lugh has an interesting video comparing the Greek and Norse / Germanic Gods and what they are by their nature and cosmological interaction here.
https://youtu.be/cAptd35CSSM?si=7kUHbVenRxaiOvpE
Of course, there is more to it than this, but it is an interesting perspective that can be added to what I wrote above for a more well-grounded view
https://youtu.be/cAptd35CSSM?si=7kUHbVenRxaiOvpE
Of course, there is more to it than this, but it is an interesting perspective that can be added to what I wrote above for a more well-grounded view
YouTube
What Are The Greek and Norse Gods?
There are many theories about the nature of the ancient pre-Christian gods of Europe. Looking primarily at Greek and Norse myths and using some comparative analysis I attempt to reconstruct a very ancient view of the gods. This does not address any later…
Went to the Blue Mountains in Australia 🇦🇺.
There is something immensely spiritual about being close to where the Earth meets the Sky.
There is a reason why these types of areas are seen as liminal and religious in a primal core sense to different people around the world.
The beauty alone brings a sense of awe.
There is something immensely spiritual about being close to where the Earth meets the Sky.
There is a reason why these types of areas are seen as liminal and religious in a primal core sense to different people around the world.
The beauty alone brings a sense of awe.
Irony
In the current "conflict" in the Middle East between Abrahamic entities, the leader of Israel, Netanyahu, decided to invoke historical events in order to sway some to his side.
With this, he stated “I want to tell you that 2,500 years ago, Cyrus the Great, the king of Persia, liberated the Jews. And today, a Jewish state is creating the means to liberate the Persian people,”
What he doesn't mention is that Cyrus was a Zoroastrian king. Zoroastrianism, though in its developments, has many things i don't agree with, was an Indo-European / Aryan faith, and while influencing Judhaism and Christianity, and by proxy and proximity Islam, was a vastly different religion to the Islam that conquered Persia / Iran.
Interestingly enough, there is a large group of people in Iran who apparently are an oppressed minority that are Zoroastrian.
But is liberation really the goal of these individuals who represent an Abrahamic hegemony? Or is it a manipulation tactic for validation?
Note: Iran has many UNESCO sites.
In the current "conflict" in the Middle East between Abrahamic entities, the leader of Israel, Netanyahu, decided to invoke historical events in order to sway some to his side.
With this, he stated “I want to tell you that 2,500 years ago, Cyrus the Great, the king of Persia, liberated the Jews. And today, a Jewish state is creating the means to liberate the Persian people,”
What he doesn't mention is that Cyrus was a Zoroastrian king. Zoroastrianism, though in its developments, has many things i don't agree with, was an Indo-European / Aryan faith, and while influencing Judhaism and Christianity, and by proxy and proximity Islam, was a vastly different religion to the Islam that conquered Persia / Iran.
Interestingly enough, there is a large group of people in Iran who apparently are an oppressed minority that are Zoroastrian.
But is liberation really the goal of these individuals who represent an Abrahamic hegemony? Or is it a manipulation tactic for validation?
Note: Iran has many UNESCO sites.
European Paganism (regardless of the flavor) was very legalistic. And in my opinion, it should still be slightly so. Rituals and rites reflect those of both faith and conduct.
We wouldn't know Dane Law, Greek politics, Roman Republic governance, the Germanic Thing /folkmoot, as well as others, if it weren't for the fact that the people had legal systems of governance, conduct, and spiritual life.
Responding to: https://x.com/FortressLugh/status/1923258694214500676?s=19
We wouldn't know Dane Law, Greek politics, Roman Republic governance, the Germanic Thing /folkmoot, as well as others, if it weren't for the fact that the people had legal systems of governance, conduct, and spiritual life.
Responding to: https://x.com/FortressLugh/status/1923258694214500676?s=19